Curse

Merios · Mar 04, 2008, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Unsuspecting Strike, Wild Strike, Death Blossom, Moebius Strike, Death's Charge, Resurrect, Shadow Refuge, Dash

Do you think that's decent for a PVE Sin?

If not, can someone recommend a few changes?

madriel222 · Mar 04, 2008, 04:39 AM // 04:39

For PvE, Critical Defense and Critical Agility will do very nicely for you

Merios · Mar 04, 2008, 04:49 AM // 04:49

What do you suggest taking out for those?

dicecube · Mar 04, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

i'd take out death's charge for crit agility, shadow refuge for feigned neutrality and rez sig for crit defense but thats my opinion.
many would say you would need a rez but i generally play with h/h.

RavagerOfDreams · Mar 04, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05

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Originally Posted by dicecube

i'd take out death's charge for crit agility, shadow refuge for Mystic Regeneration and rez sig for crit defense

there i fixed that for you

Coloneh · Mar 04, 2008, 06:05 AM // 06:05

calm down, hes trying to help you... anyways

switch unsuspecting and wild for golden phoenix strike
death's charge and that spare slot for critical agility and critical defenses
ressurect for a better rez skill. DP signet is the best, res sig is fine.
shadow refuge for a better self heal, mystic regeneration is best. way of perfection is decent.
you can leave dash or witch it for almost anything, i would get drunken master.

make sure attributes are:
crit: 12+1 (or 11+1+1)
earth(or other slef heal attribute): 8
the rest in daggers +1 (or +1+1)

ZeAliX · Mar 04, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Well.. self heal isn't that needed unless you are doing something solo.. You will always have monks with (or you should have

) just place everything on dagger mastery and critical strike and make sure you get 13 in crit strikes as Coloneh says. Anyway.. here's my suggestion (and the build I use):

[skill]Critical Agility[/skill][skill]Golden Fox Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Strike[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]"Save Yourselves!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 04, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

if you have factions only then the build is fine
but if you have nf you will wanna pick up the sunspear skill crit agility

phan · Mar 04, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

there i fixed that for you

Uhmm ; don't fix a perfectly nice skill with your rubbish ..

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 04, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

shadow refuge is crap. always was and always will be.

Coloneh · Mar 04, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

shadow refuge is crap. always was and always will be.

qft. the conditional heal should never be met if you need a heal and unless you have some really high, cheap regen, regeneration is next to useless.

and @ the loony up there with the SY! build with no slef heal AND no critical defenses: thats just madness. running your sin into melee without any defense and expecting your monk to save your ass when you could very easily keep yourself alive is just being a bad team player.

RavagerOfDreams · Mar 04, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by phan

Uhmm ; don't fix a perfectly nice skill with your rubbish ..

naw feigned failz in pve its really just that simple.

mystic regen-constant health regen no conditional > feigned neutrality- you so much as breathe and it ends

Hodgie · Mar 11, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

that is unless u use IW, in which feigned neutrality can work wonders lol

Bobby2 · Mar 11, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

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Originally Posted by ZeAliX

[skill]Critical Agility[/skill][skill]Golden Fox Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Strike[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]"Save Yourselves!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

For serious PvE you'd really want CritDefenses in there. I would drop SY! for it - it's a great skill but really doesn't belong on a frontline squishy.

On the self-heal issue: Mystic Regen is nice as always, but Feigned is more likely to get you out of a bind when you really need it. Also, consider Assassin's Remedy/Mending Touch: condition removal > healing.

Unreal Havoc · Mar 14, 2008, 09:24 AM // 09:24

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

and @ the loony up there with the SY! build with no slef heal AND no critical defenses: thats just madness. running your sin into melee without any defense and expecting your monk to save your ass when you could very easily keep yourself alive is just being a bad team player.

Assassin self heals are mediocre at best and are pretty much useless at the best of times other than for an out of combat heal. Considering, with that build, you have +24 armour and the rest of your team is blessed with the benefit of +100 armour, do you really think your monks would have any trouble keeping you alive?

If they do then I suggest finding better Monks.

Coloneh · Mar 14, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc

Assassin self heals are mediocre at best and are pretty much useless at the best of times other than for an out of combat heal. Considering, with that build, you have +24 armour and the rest of your team is blessed with the benefit of +100 armour, do you really think your monks would have any trouble keeping you alive?

If they do then I suggest finding better Monks.

you still have about 50 less armor less that everyone else in your party. that makes you the first target for all AI. If you don't bring critical defenses you're going to blow up.

Bowstring Badass · Mar 15, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

you still have about 50 less armor less that everyone else in your party. that makes you the first target for all AI. If you don't bring critical defenses you're going to blow up.

+ armor or not your going to blow up...

Terraban · Mar 15, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

you still have about 50 less armor less that everyone else in your party. that makes you the first target for all AI. If you don't bring critical defenses you're going to blow up.

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

+ armor or not your going to blow up...

Unless I am not understanding you guys, I think that you guys might be confused.

When everyone in the party has +100 armor, and the lowest armored person in your team has at least 160 armor....they will not be taking damage. Nobody will be taking damage besides the assassin.

If your monks are incapable of keeping one person alive, then they need to drop the Healing Breeze and take a real build.

Unreal Havoc · Mar 15, 2008, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by Terraban

Unless I am not understanding you guys, I think that you guys might be confused.

When everyone in the party has +100 armor, and the lowest armored person in your team has at least 160 armor....they will not be taking damage. Nobody will be taking damage besides the assassin.

If your monks are incapable of keeping one person alive, then they need to drop the Healing Breeze and take a real build.

I don't think they know what good Monks are to be honest, if they did we wouldn't be needing to have this conversation.

Bowstring Badass · Mar 15, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Terraban

Unless I am not understanding you guys, I think that you guys might be confused.

When everyone in the party has +100 armor, and the lowest armored person in your team has at least 160 armor....they will not be taking damage. Nobody will be taking damage besides the assassin.

If your monks are incapable of keeping one person alive, then they need to drop the Healing Breeze and take a real build.

I agree with you. But come on you really going to trust those PuGs? lol